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Or ask J to turn off all the hairdryers and stuff, and that gyro! Before spending time on fuel, consider this: on my boat, if the boat is stopped so that e/room ventilation kinda stops and the genset is sucking in warm engine room caused by recently shut down engines, a demand overload from too many loads causes the genset's engine to stutter/stall before the current overload breakers trip. If you look at the Kubota data sheets you see that the engine only makes something like 70% of its nominal BHP if breathing 70degrees C air. That's why I specked directed ducted air intake on my current boat, so the gensets breathe external air not e/room air, with fan assist. If this was your problem it's nothing to worry about Also a lack of fuel supply has its own fault code doesn't it? I can't remember.
Too hot intake air doesn't have a fault code (other than 36, as it were) Last edited by jfm; 16-04-15 at 13:44. Or ask J to turn off all the hairdryers and stuff, and that gyro! Before spending time on fuel, consider this: on my boat, if the boat is stopped so that e/room ventilation kinda stops and the genset is sucking in warm engine room caused by recently shut down engines, a demand overload from too many loads causes the genset's engine to stutter/stall before the current overload breakers trip. If you look at the Kubota data sheets you see that the engine only makes something like 70% of its nominal BHP if breathing 70degrees C air.
That's why I specked directed ducted air intake on my current boat, so the gensets breathe external air not e/room air, with fan assist. If this was your problem it's nothing to worry about Also a lack of fuel supply has its own fault code doesn't it?
I can't remember. Too hot intake air doesn't have a fault code (other than 36, as it were)Hmm, you may be onto something, though in my case I'm fairly sure it's not related to load as we had very little running. Following the recent thread on here about engine fans, I disconnected my noisy extract fans on the basis that the engines shift loads of air anyway when they're running, and the fans stop shortly after the engines are stopped so do little for cooling after a trip, and the batteries are separately vented.
Fans were definitely set to extract, not feed fresh air. On the trip in question, as it was the first trip after anti fouling, once the engines were warm I did a short blast at WOT to check max speed with a clean hull and stern gear. Engines of course got hotter with more work being done (separate thread on that), and after a few mins I eased back to 800 rpm, 8 knots. Maybe the genny was then sucking in very warm air and despite having a low load, only the gyro running, that may have caused the shutdown. That would explain why it has run fine since. I'm rekindling this thread as I haven't managed to sort the problem yet, so was hoping someone may be able to help. In summary, the genny starts OK, and will run fine under high or low load whilst at anchor or in port, but underway it keeps stopping.
The fault code registers as 'engine stopped without command from controller'. It happens even at displacement speed in calm sea.
The only change I've made recently is a new battery, and I've checked that the terminals are secure and that the alternator is charging OK while genny is running. I've checked the whole fuel system and can't see any leaks, and I've changed the fuel filters.
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Quickstart Guide For New RV Generator Owners 3 III. Determining Which Cummins Onan Generator Model You Own 5 IV. RV Generator Operation. Load Management Basics 7.
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Do’s And Don’ts For Better Generator Performance 25 Cummins Onan is the number one, best-selling line of installed generators in. Keep Your Generator Clean and Inspect It Regularly for Damage 25 RV industry history. Fuel Recommendations 26 Cummins Onan generators come in a wide variety of sizes and fuel types. Oil Recommendations 26 From small gasoline, LP-liquid or vapor models to large diesel-powered models.
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Fault Codes 30 This RV Generator Handbook contains basic information that will allow. Service Diagrams 31-36 you to use and maintain your new generator.
Included here are helpful tips for operation along with maintenance, parts and service information. Generator Maintenance: Parts and Chemicals handbook is a general supplement to the more specific information contained in. Insist On The Quality Of Green Label Parts™ 37 the Owner’s Manual that comes with every new Cummins Onan generator.
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Moving parts can cause severe personal injury or death, and live wires could cause fatal electrocution. Backfeed to utility systems can create serious risks to life or property. Do not connect the generator to a building electrical system except through an approved device and after the building’s main breaker is opened. Autostart Caution: Be sure to deactivate your autostart system before storing your RV, conducting electrical maintenance, or handing over your RV to a service center. To be sure your generator won’t start while conducting maintenance, follow the Operators Manual and disconnect the remote electrical harness prior to any service. Statement Regarding Exhaust Extensions Cummins Power Generation, manufacturer of Cummins Onan generator products, does not endorse the use of RV generator exhaust pipe extensions.
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Like all fuel burning devices, engine-driven generators emit carbon monoxide (CO) which, if not safely handled, can produce serious injury or death. Cummins Onan generators, in I: Important Safety Precautions conjunction with RV OEM installed tailpipes, are designed to meet RVIA standards for safely handling exhaust gasses while minimizing noise and maximizing generator performance.
Improper modifications to the exhaust components can result in unreasonable hazards to the vehicle occupants. Cummins Power Generation has been unable to this date to identify any commercially available exhaust extension kit which meets reasonable standards for safely handling exhaust gases.
Cummins Power Generation’s concerns revolve around 6 areas: 1. Weight: Unless entirely self supporting, extensions add weight to the end of the generator tail pipe which can stress and crack or break the exhaust system parts Please read your generator Operator’s Manual carefully so you understand all the that are not designed to carry the additional weight. This could result in exhaust precautions for safe, efficient operation. Most accidents occur from failing to follow gases escaping directly under the coach, and therefore could be extremely fundamental safety rules. In general: dangerous to vehicle occupants.
Exhaust gas is deadly. Check all exhaust system connections regularly for 2. Fit: To be effective conveyors of exhaust, connections & joints must be gas- leaks and tighten them as necessary. Do NOT operate the generator with a tight.
Such connections are not guaranteed unless the exhaust extension kit is faulty exhaust system. Properly assembled each time it is used. If your RV bottoms out on a driveway or road object, inspect the generator 3. Exhaust Direction: Because exhaust extensions vent at the roof line, there is a exhaust system for damage. The tail pipe must extend past the edge of the major concern that exhaust will be sucked in by rooftop air conditioners, vents vehicle. Always operate the generator in an area where the wind will carry away the 4. Heat: Many extension designs involve exposed metal that can be a burn hazard exhaust fumes.
To anyone passing by who might contact the exposed extension pipe. Backpressure: Adding an extension may increase backpressure on the engine,. Never sleep with the generator running unless the RV is equipped with an and thereby reduce engine performance or cause the engine to fail meeting operating carbon monoxide detector.
Government-regulated exhaust standards. Don’t store anything, especially gas, oil, rags or other flammable materials, in 6. Warranty: The use of an exhaust extension kit may void the Cummins Onan the generator compartment. Keep the exhaust and air intake free from obstructions such as clothing, furni- ture or other material, like road debris. 1 2. Cummins Onan Web Sites CumminsOnan.com is the official online home for all Cummins Onan products. Visit CumminsOnan.com to learn more about our full line of RV generators for motorhomes and trailers.
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I have a 2004 Discovery, and the Generator wii no start. I had not been using the generator this past summer, bit I ahd the oil changed in Aug. When we started home (from Oh. To Tx.) I tried to start it, but I had to prime it, then it started. After a week in the camp ground, we then continued on our way. We pulled in to a rest area and i I tried to start it.
It would not start. The start switch is a rocker type that you push down to start and up to prime.
The prime has a lightening bolt on it that I think is a light. This does not light when I pressed on it. I was thinking that a fuse was out.
But after checking the fuses, what I could find, they were not blown. My mh is a 2004 Fleetwood Discovery 39l. IRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more! I am very confused by this post. What is everyone talking about when they say prime. These are diesel engines to the best of my knowledge you do not prime a diesel. The instant you get air in a diesel engine you have problems starting it.
If you lose a prime that would mean you had air in your lines and I would be willing to bet that you will not fix that by just holding a button in. Are you talking about turning on the glow plugs. I could see that happening if you pushed in on a button to turn them on then start it after they had heated up the cylinder. Could someone explain what they mean by prime? I am very confused by this post.
What is everyone talking about when they say prime. These are diesel engines to the best of my knowledge you do not prime a diesel. The instant you get air in a diesel engine you have problems starting it. If you lose a prime that would mean you had air in your lines and I would be willing to bet that you will not fix that by just holding a button in.
Are you talking about turning on the glow plugs. I could see that happening if you pushed in on a button to turn them on then start it after they had heated up the cylinder. Could someone explain what they mean by prime?
Pushing and holding the bottom of the start switch activates the fuel pump. Maybe pressurize is a better word. I have a 1996 HR Navigator with a 10K Onan diesel gen. It periodically refuses to start. The cause is the solenoid activated fuel shutoff switch which initiated by the rocker switch on either the dash or at the gen.
I have found this switch to e a bit of a weak link with my gen, having replaced it three times in seven years. Not something I would have expected. I try o carry a spare with me, but if you don't (can't), you can get the gen to start by using the preheat/start rocker switch at the genset and as you push it to start, also pull back on the fuel shutoff switch. There seems to be a weakness develop after a couple of years and this is the only way to get it started without replacing the shutoff switch. This happens to my coach regardless of the charge condition of my batteries. One other thing I notice is that if I haven't used the genset for some time, I have to do multiple preheats (2 or 3) before the generator starts.
Had a problem with the 10KW on my 2001 Monaco. A member here suggested the 'Onan Voodoo' solution. Start the engine first and then try the Onan starter.
I don't have a clue why this worked but it did. Voodoo, If you have to ask, you won't understand'.:-) One more thing, get out the Onan manual and read the starting instructions. Mine does not suggest using the fuel pump 'prime' to start the Onan unless the filter has been replaced.
The start position will produce the same 'clicking' sound (fuel pump running) as the prime position until the starter engages.
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